Police: Captive had at least 6 children by her father
Austrian police believe a 73-year-old man held his daughter captive in his cellar for the past two decades and fathered at least six children with her, according to police and state-run news reports Sunday.
The woman, identified as 42-year-old Elisabeth F., has been missing since 1984, when she was 18 years old, police said at a news conference.
The situation came to light earlier this month after her daughter — a 19-year-old woman, identified as Kristen F. — was hospitalized in Amstetten after falling unconscious, according to police.
She was admitted to a hospital in Amstetten, outside Vienna, by her grandfather with a note from her biological mother requesting help. Amstetten is a rural town about 150 km (93 miles) west of Vienna.
But police said a DNA test later revealed her grandfather, Josef F., was also her father, according to ORF, Austria’s state-run news agency.
That sparked a police investigation, which revealed that Josef F. may have fathered at least six children with his daughter, forcing her and three of the surviving children to live in the cellar of his house, according to ORF’s Peter Schmitzberger.
The children are now between 5 and 19 years old.
Police are awaiting DNA tests to verify their relationship to Josef F., who faces arrest for “severe crimes against family members,” according to police. So far, he has not given a statement to police.
Police spokesman Franz Polzer told ORF that the 73-year-old has led police to several hidden rooms in his cellar accessible only by an electronic passcode that he provided to police.
-CNN.com
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Okay guys, this is sick.
Remember the case, I believe it is in Louisiana, where a guy is on death row for rape? This guy, who has the balls to father 6 children with his daugher, deserves to be on death row. Sadly, most European countries are against the death penalty because they think that it is too cruel. What this guy did to his daugher is cruel. If the death penalty is too cruel, than this guy fits the bill. Let’s hose him with gasoline and light him on fire. What he did is a crime against humanity.
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This story has firmly convinced me that unchecked, unqualified domestic privacy effectively enables the justice system to work in reverse by imprisoning one or more innocent persons in order that the majority may continue to live under the delusion that government ends at their front door. The corollary is that parenting should in fact be left up to society and not just to biological parents. Especially in light of how one cannot ’see through people,’ to quote one of the girl’s neighbors.
One more thing:
As a survivor of an abduction ordeal that nearly culminated in my strangulation in a dingy alley near the perpetrator’s house had I not been wily enough to ‘read’ the deranged man and fool him into thinking I had Stockholm syndrome 26 years ago at age 8, I would gladly submit to an annual home inspection for missing children if I thought even one abducted child could be recovered.
To those who consider this a fringe issue, please consider just how many heinous criminals are exonerated every year, for lack of that one compelling bit of absolutely incriminating evidence – the knockout blow – needed to justify their incarceration in the mind of the conscientious juror.
A sequestered environment is the perfect breeding ground for a personal holocaust. Don’t buy into the ‘home’ front if you truly believe in human rights.
This incident is a horror beyond any rational ability to describe.
However, this is one twisted individual on a a planet with over six billion people. To suggest that these six billion people should no longer have “domestic privacy” because of the actions of a tiny fraction of the population (less than 0.000001%) of the population is simply a knee-jerk response, a tremendous over-reaction. And while this reaction is understandable, it remains inappropriate.
Such a suggestion also ignores the fact that in every historical instance where parenting was left to “society”, from the time of the Spartans of ancient Greece to the Germans of World War II to today, has been an unmitigated disaster that has ultimately resulted in the destruction of that society.
While we should take all reasonable measures to ensure that incidents such as this never occur, those measures must be balanced against people’s fundamental need for privacy within the home. While turning children over to the state for rearing would be overly intrusive in the extreme, annual public health check-ups on children under age 16 may be entirely appropriate.
I wrote “unqualified, unchecked domestic privacy”. How does an agency make a qualification, such as the one Joseph Kelly recommends based on age, if the secret victim is over 18 and making babies (all of whom may be assumed to be “under age 16″) in a dungeon? How does one surmount that logistical hurdle? Again, who should receive benefit of doubt?
Has anyone ever noticed that these sex freaks are always from some good, law-and-order, self-righteous, God fearing super-Christian, gun-toting state, family values state?
This man needs to shot right away and that is a fact along with his wife. What do we do with rabbit animals for the most part shoot them and that is a fact!!!
If there was ever a cogent argument for Capital Punishment, this case and Mr.F deserves it! Hope they string up this guy in public. Never mind, we are talking about Europe where criminals have all the rights and victims none!